I am having the hardest time with apo right now. I upgraded a while back and it was fighting with my plug-ins. So that locked me out of using some fractals until the next update. Then I did that and It would open the prams in a flame, but as I opened the editor, it would give me an error message that didn't go away. I did that for about 5 mins last night until I had to open my task manager to close apo down. 

So I thought it was time and just removed it. I saved my plug-ins since some were hard for me to find. I uninstalled it. Got a reg cleaner and it took out anything that pointed to apo and I got the newest version apo17x. 

So what is my new problem? It won't see any of the plug-ins that I added to its plug-in folder. It runs, it doesn't crash, but it tells me that doesn't have this list of plug-ins to create the flame. I re-added them and it still tells me that. I added older versions of a few plug-ins to see if they might be seen in some way, but nothing. 

So I was thinking that I would have to get a copy that actually installed itself into windows and then hope that will then work with plug-ins. But I know if I get an old enough install it will. What doesn't help is that the newest versions are just in zip form. 

What happened to the installers? Do you know where I can get the newest version that does install itself?

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